I love the marled colour of these and have owned them for about 3 years without any damage. The colour makes them my go-to "going out" joggers because it looks a bit more official. I ordered XL based on the size chart, though I usually wear L (or rarely M) with other brands. The fit is a little odd; way too loose around my waist and I need to tie the string tight, but wouldnt want them any tighter on the legs (the issue of chunky legs and butt). Maybe they'd fit better on a man or other body type. Length is prefect.